Dianna, that was a wonderful and thoughtful response. Thank you! Thank you also for highlighting Uma Narayan's works, too. Yes, Narayan rightly points out that for all the discussion focused on untangling the knots that bind the concept of identity and national-affiliation, the rhetoric, painted language, and dominant cognitive framework still hang on the walls closing in on the discourse on cosmopolitanism.
In noting how, even when one has the intention to dismantle the binary associations that often come with nationalism and national identity with ideas about cosmopolitanism, Dianna is right in concluding that one is still defining oneself by what one is not. In other words, in discussing the theory of cosmopolitanism, one does so by acknowledging/affirming the antitheses to cosmopolitanism (nationalism, regionalism, ethnocentrism, et cetera). In a way, this binary approach often limits how we can expect to think about culture in a new way since, as Dianna highlights, we are still using the same old rhetorical, nationalist tools in attempt fashion a new paradigm about being a citizen of the world. It's pretty darn difficult to escape the naming of national identities. (Would 'a rose by any other name would [still] smell as sweet"?) It's even more difficult to do if we were born into geo-political nationalist culture that inculcated certain habits and systemic beliefs.
In noting how, even when one has the intention to dismantle the binary associations that often come with nationalism and national identity with ideas about cosmopolitanism, Dianna is right in concluding that one is still defining oneself by what one is not. In other words, in discussing the theory of cosmopolitanism, one does so by acknowledging/affirming the antitheses to cosmopolitanism (nationalism, regionalism, ethnocentrism, et cetera). In a way, this binary approach often limits how we can expect to think about culture in a new way since, as Dianna highlights, we are still using the same old rhetorical, nationalist tools in attempt fashion a new paradigm about being a citizen of the world. It's pretty darn difficult to escape the naming of national identities. (Would 'a rose by any other name would [still] smell as sweet"?) It's even more difficult to do if we were born into geo-political nationalist culture that inculcated certain habits and systemic beliefs.
So yes, it seems like we're still using the same rhetorical tools to discuss culture, but I believe our society's frequent references to nationalities is a really an instinct for convenience at the international level (the word international has 'nation' in it, quelle surprise). This instinct shifts at the national and local levels (when there's no nationality to distinguish between, e.g. when referring to Americans, they're, well...all Americans, so we might elect to distinguish each one from the other with say, cultural political categories such as 'Independent,' 'Democrat,' 'Republican' or 'Pastafarian.'
All jokes aside, culture exists beyond national borders and boundaries -- we can look at the Kurds or diaspora, religious, and/or political communities around the world, to list a few examples, and acknowledge this fact. Culture is also contradictory. I think Arjun Appadurai appropriately sheds light on a path to changing the way in which we talk about cultural identity by identifying five primary imaginary "landscapes"-- ethnoscapes; mediascapes; technoscapes; finanscapes; and ideoscapes in "Disjuncture and Difference in the Global Cultural Economy." I agree that nationalism will not just go away. However, I don't believe nationalism remains fixed in our international system because of a matter of "language space" within the discourse of inclusion. (That's a separate blog post!)
Martha Nussbaum's interpretation of cosmopolitanism is fascinating. The idea that "we should recognize humanity wherever it occures, and give its fundamental ingredients, reason, and more capacity, our allegience and respect." I believe one can apply ethics and have respect for other cultures within a nationality and outside a nationality. This does not mean abolishing the idea of the nation-state or regionalism. In contrast, this means recognizing that we are wholly capable of upholding cosmopolitanism as not only an embrace of other national cultures, but outlooks, orientations, religions, and political cultures. This is certainly made possible by "language space," but also by action.
This may be but a small detail, however, when Diogenes first declared that he was "kosmopolitēs," (and thus announced the birth of cosmopolitanism) it was long, long before the Peace of Westphalia and the birth of the modern nation-state. As Nussbaum states, "Diogenes knew that the invitation to think as a world citizen was, in a sense, an invitation to be an exile from the comfort of patriotism and its east sentiments, to see our own ways of life from the point of view of justice and the good. The accident of where one is born is just that, an accident." Diogenes' statement that he was a "citizen of the world" was qualified by his belief in the power of action over words to sustain and communicate respect for humanity.
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Dianna's Response - September 30, 2012 at 7:18 PM
First, thank you for inserting the Tagore and Yeats quotes. Having two anti-colonial writers argue for a moderated form of cosmopolitanism brings a very interesting perspective to the debate of the modern "global citizen". However, after reading your post, I found myself wondering if the "third space" is in fact possible when it is still trapped in the language of nationalism.
Both the utopian global citizen and the Yeats/Tagore balancing act are predicated on the existence of a nationalist discourse and identity. Without knowing what nationalism is, you could not understanding its antithesis or even create the "third space". To me, that would make both ideas slightly problematic to initiate. With the "third space", nationalism is permitted, but is supposed to be tempered by respect for other cultures. But isn't that a hard thing to balance against an idea that still has power in the modern world? Even pure cosmopolitanism, which says it erases nationalism, actually doesn't because nationalism as an idea still underscores the very language of cosmopolitanism.
It is very hard to change or even erase an idea when that idea is still very much alive in the language of a culture. When it is in the discourse, it means it still has agency in the system, and can therefore impact modern ideas for good or ill.
The reference to Tagore and Yeats brought to mind the work of Uma Narayan. Though she deals predominantly with "Third World Feminism", she spends a whole chapter in her book Dislocating Cultures talking of "Anti-Western" sentiment and how that lead to third-world nationalist movements. But as she points out, in their attempt to create a new identity for themselves, the colonized ended up appropriating the same system of cultural identity that their colonizers used ("Us" v. "Them") and just making their definition of nationalism as "Anit-Western" (14). By not changing their discourse on identity, the colonized were still bound by the meanings that discourse conveyed on them. Though it may seem like going in the exact opposite direction would free you from the shackles of a discourse you do not agree with, it actually binds you even closer, because you can only define yourself as NOT that discourse.
Tagore and Yeats are both writing in this colonialist era, and so it fascinates me that they bring up this idea of hybridization in such a context. But even they do not offer a means to change the actual language of identity. As you noted, "national identity" is still a part of their "third space". So my question to everyone is: how can you expect to think about culture in a new way -- to include the possibility of a hybrid culture -- if you cannot change the way in which you talk about cultural identity?
Even with social media and other communication technologies giving us access to cultures and perspectives, nationalism still plays its role, because to this day you identify yourself as Chinese, American, Indian, Moroccan, etc. Until that language can be taken out as a signifier of our identity, I will have to remain skeptical that the third-space -- even if we are occupying it -- can be sustained. Nationalism dominated international relations for so many years, and I worry that that much history and power in our world means that it will not easily share its language space with the discourse of inclusion.
MJ -- First off, I would like to say thank you for such a great response.I am now noticing that we are approaching nationalism/cosmopolitanism from two very different perspectives. It appears that you believe these concepts are shown, disproved, hybridized, etc. through action and the physical effects that we can see in front of us. I, on the other hand, look at these concepts as abstract. Coming from a background in literature, I admit I am predisposed to see words as very powerful due to the meanings they carry. To me, those meanings are not just powerful in the actions they breed, but in the ideas and concepts they engender into our thoughts -- which in my opinion predicate all action.
ReplyDeleteI do not disagree with you on several points. You are right that culture goes beyond borders, and the diaspora examples are spot-on in proving this point. I also feel that there has to be some human capacity for understanding and respecting other cultures, otherwise we would not be taking our current class. Unfortunately, however, the last sentiment could be the exception to the rule, and my proffered explanation is that the masses are still fixed in their ideas because of language.
True, this is not the only factor that keeps nationalism alive. We could talk about media use (or in some cases lack thereof), for one example. But what is media built on? The need to communicate. And what do modern humans typically use to communicate? Language. And we admit in class that media has the ability to frame the masses perspective, so why can we not also say that language has that power as well?
Speaking of "modern"... your example of Diogenes is wonderful. I feel it does give hope that there are some who are able to see beyond the ideas of "I-Other" and see the common human factor of culture, even going so far back in human history. But I worry of your choice of example because the context of his declaration does happen BEFORE nationalism. Therefore, the relevancy of that idea to our current era is hard to see.
Tzvetan Todorov in "Conquest of America" makes a very good argument for the beginning of the modern view of culture: it all stems from colonialism and the subjugation of the Other (everyone not European) to the I (everyone that was European)through the power of language. And again, I think you would agree with me when I say that a lot of the political and economic situations that we are dealing with today stem from the actions taken by colonial powers. So again I ask, why can we not also say that conceptions of a different state of being (whether we look at it on a local, national, or international level) are based on communicating differences? My hope as well as yours is that we can look at the similarities of human experience. But as I have said before, it is very hard to do when our "modern" history, which created our very way of thinking, is based around vocalizing that we are NOT the same as someone else.
Taking action is a way to change the status quo.But will it be a lasting change? If you give people at every level of society a set of actions to follow that will "build understanding of the world and its cultures", will that be the meaning that they take from it? Or will their actions ever achieve the desired goal unless you change the way they perceive the "Other"?
This is the conundrum that I keep running across when we talk about cosmopolitanism, and even the idea of a middle road where humanity is recognized among the different national identities. Overall, it seems we agree on the definitions of the concepts, we just disagree to in potentially what needs to be done to address the growing issue. I just hope you will no longer dismiss what you dubbed "language space" so readily when you consider what constructs and maintains identities. And for my part, I will try to look at the less abstract elements that go into identities as well.
Thank you kindly, Dianna, for giving much thought to this. Language space is certainly intrinsic to the construction of identity, and I shouldn't have dismissed it in such an airy fashion.
ReplyDeleteI see and agree with your view that we do live in a world where we often use language to vocalize that "we are NOT the same as someone else." So yes, so long as a certain dominates our perception of a certain Other -- and change to said perception is heavily influenced by language space -- then we will often face challenges and difficulties we'll have to overcome.
Regarding your thought on how "the masses are still fixed in their ideas because of language" -- we'll learn in our study of food as communication and gastrodiplomacy, communication is made up of verbal and non-verbal languages and means that we use to convey our understanding of the world. As Stuart Hall ("Encoding, Decoding"), Adele Wessell and Andrew Jones ("Faith-based Homespace: Decoding Good Taste in a Monastery") underscore, "meaning is not fixed...in the text but forged at the moment of reception."
While language is absolutely our most typical mode of encoding and decoding messages, in considering Hall's work, what thoughts, feelings, and perceptions can an atypical non-verbal means of communication?
What can a Japanese tea ritual or chitterlings express that words cannot? This seems far removed from our conversation about cosmopolitanism, but it's really not when we think about it. Food, at the most basic level (in Maslow's hierarchy of needs), engenders tribes, politics, religion, and economics.
It has the power to serve as both symbol and ritual (Carey) in everyday discourse, communicating lifestyle, group affiliation (vegan, vegetarian, paleo dieter, Buddhist), and to a larger extent, a philosophy on the rituals of eating and behavior. Of course, taste may differ along differences in communication and world view...and maybe that's where Professor Gary Weaver's voice rings in: "We send messages, but not meanings." In a very metaphorical sense, I'd like to think that if we spend enough time eating together, even with differences in language and nationality, there is a greater likelihood of having shared and/or peaceable meanings emerge.
And now I'm hungry!